Superman Returns made use of parts of that soundtrack, but it seemed choppy and poorly edited. A cheap knockoff soundtrack.
Man of Steel doesn't have that music at all. I would have liked the movie better with the Williams score in the film.
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Some great points here. I did enjoy the Iron Man movies as visual entertainment but they left me cold for the reasons, you give, no big "Yeah!" moment, I never really realized that before. Mostly because the movie sank or swam on Downey and Downey alone, who was brilliant in the part. I thought the plot lines were lame and IM never went up against any foe I thought had any chance of defeating him, and really stayed away from his familiar rogue's gallery (the fubar of the Mandarin in the third movie is really unforgivable). I agree Man of Steel really doesn't have that moment either. The Avengers had it in spades, as did some of the other good superhero movies. Writers and directors are going to have to keep looking for those "Yeah!" moments as more and more of these sorts of movies are made if they want to prevent the superhero flick from getting lamer and lamer and eventually become Second Class Superhero City.robertsconley wrote:I liked Man of Steel for the most part however what I think is a downer is that it was never as inspiring as the Reeves Superman I and II and even Returns. Overall it made sense to me why it was what it was but there was never a "yeah!" moment like with the earlier Superman movies. I think that is the main source of the mixed feelings on Man of Steel.
Downey'sIron Man works because despite all that happening he can make us laugh or smile by being just Tony Stark. Superman's equivalent to me has always been "Yeah!" moment when the big guy lays down the smackdown on the villian (preferably to John Williams score) combined with being Clark Kent. Man of Steel didn't have a lot of that. Doesn't make it bad but it does mean it was a lot harder to accept as a Superman movie.
I do really like Adams as Lois Lane and Cavill's performance as Clark/Superman. Reeves Superman persona was always felt a bit unearthly to me. However the jury out whether Cavill can approach Reeves's acting on Clark Kent vs Superman. I suspect it will be more like Dean Cain in Lois & Clark.
Superman Returns took the spirit of Donner's Superman and continued it. Routh was eerie. He looked the part and even sounded just like Reeves. It sent a shiver up my spine the first time he spoke. I absolutely loved the movie except the epilogue. This is Superman to me. Since that movie I've been following Routh's work and been highly impressed.grodog wrote:I enjoyed Superman Returns as well as Lois & Clark. I did not like The Man of Steel: 3/10 or so. There just wasn't much of a plot, and what there was had holes through that were being covered over with special effects and action sequences so that you'd miss them (not unlike).
For me it’s the black-and-white seasons of the ’50s Adventures of Superman TV show. I like Superman fundamentally as detective stories with only occasional sci-fi elements. (Other than Superman’s own powers.)thedungeondelver wrote:Man, for me the '78 Superman will forever be THE Superman film.
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