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I AM the 80s!

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Falconer wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:32 pm

Watched Star Trek III: TSFS the other day. I’ve seen it only once before, a decade ago. It’s great fun, I can’t hate it, only it’s SOOO 80s.

The main thing I couldn't get past was that they recast Lt. Saavik.

I like all 6 of the original-cast Trek movies, even #5, which reminds me of one of those late-period John Ford or Howard Hawks movies like Hatari! or Donovan's Reef where it's clearly just a bunch of old friends hanging out having fun together in a picturesque location and the stakes are extremely low and you can tell nobody was taking any of it too seriously on either side of the camera. I actually prefer it to #6, which tried to be too Important and Serious.

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Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:46 pm

Falconer wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:32 pm

Watched Star Trek III: TSFS the other day. I’ve seen it only once before, a decade ago. It’s great fun, I can’t hate it, only it’s SOOO 80s.

The main thing I couldn't get past was that they recast Lt. Saavik.

I never bothered before to discover what happened there, so just did. Unsurprisingly, they couldn't ink a deal. What I did learn that's interesting is that the character Saavik was originally going to return in VI as the traitorous Vulcan. I have nothing against Cattrall, but Alley's Saavik may have elevated the movie a bit.
Here's the interesting story I read, though I disagree with the opinion in the final paragraph:
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-6-kirs ... d-valeris/

We watched Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home the other night, the only ST movie I consider an essential addition to the show. Memorable and pitch-perfect.

Falconer wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:38 am

We watched Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home the other night, the only ST movie I consider an essential addition to the show. Memorable and pitch-perfect.

IDK. I liked two and four well enough. The rest......I could have done without seeing.

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Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:43 pm

Landifarne wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:32 am

TRP wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:49 am

The last episode of The Expanse S5 dropped, and what happened, happened. And, I did *not* see that coming.

Really major book & show spoiler:

They killed Alex! Those bastards! He's still very much alive well past this point in the books.

Yeah, wasn't expecting that...and the way it was handled was very poor.

There's a reason I put this behind spoiler tags.

I disagree that it wasn't handled well.

It happens in a good time. The solar system is in a shitstorm, and it's a good way to pile more hate onto Marco. It's also good enough in the meta aspect. Cas was canned after they finished shooting. Whatever pickup shots they created to make it work was decent. I agree it wasn't ideal all the way, but with what they had to work with, I think they did much better than "poor".

I finally caught up last night. What happened seemed empty and pointless, but I get why they did it that way. In any case, season five was a major improvement on four. I read there will be one more then finis.

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Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:46 pm

Falconer wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:38 am

We watched Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home the other night, the only ST movie I consider an essential addition to the show. Memorable and pitch-perfect.

IDK. I liked two and four well enough. The rest......I could have done without seeing.

I admire TMP, because I think it's a work of art and I have a lot of nostalgia for it considering it was the first real dose of new ST we had since... the animated series, maybe?

I wanted to like III, but just couldn't.

II and IV were the actors at their best. V sucked ass, and VI was a rambling trip to nowhere and a poor send off for our beloved crew.

The Hindi movie Tumbbad, on Amazon Prime. Totally D&D-esque.

Landifarne wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:28 pm

The Hindi movie Tumbbad, on Amazon Prime. Totally D&D-esque.

Hmm. That does look interesting.

Just finished the run of Firefly. Again.
I know it gets mixed reviews here, but it definitely feels like a cross between Star Trek and D&D to me.

Been watching Farscape, having missed it during the original run. About midway through the first season, and the show improved a lot since the first few episodes.

HBO's Perry Mason is done as an origin story for the famed lawyer. I'm 3 episodes in, and liking the extra noir vibe. Nothing like Burr's Mason at all. I haven't read the books, but now I'm tempted.

Sinner, S1, with Bill Pullman and Jessica Biel is a good crime drama. Pullman plays a creepy dude too well. Watching his detective is maybe more cringey (in a good performance way) than the actual crime.

I remember really digging Farscape. The first season or two, then it got too wacky for me IIRC

TRP wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Sinner, S1, with Bill Pullman and Jessica Biel is a good crime drama. Pullman plays a creepy dude too well. Watching his detective is maybe more cringey (in a good performance way) than the actual crime.

I haven't seen that yet, maybe I will, but did you ever see Pullman in Torchwood: Miracle Day? I won't describe the background of his character here because it's a subject that doesn't need to be on this board, but he's pretty vile and disgusting, but comes off as highly compelling.

JCBoney wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 pm

Joe Mohr wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:46 pm

Falconer wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:38 am

We watched Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home the other night, the only ST movie I consider an essential addition to the show. Memorable and pitch-perfect.

IDK. I liked two and four well enough. The rest......I could have done without seeing.

I admire TMP, because I think it's a work of art and I have a lot of nostalgia for it considering it was the first real dose of new ST we had since... the animated series, maybe?

I wanted to like III, but just couldn't.

II and IV were the actors at their best. V sucked ass, and VI was a rambling trip to nowhere and a poor send off for our beloved crew.

Well I guess I would probably consider TMP better than 3, 5 or 6. It was worth seeing once. But I do not think I would have the urge to see it again.

JCBoney wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:04 pm

TRP wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Sinner, S1, with Bill Pullman and Jessica Biel is a good crime drama. Pullman plays a creepy dude too well. Watching his detective is maybe more cringey (in a good performance way) than the actual crime.

I haven't seen that yet, maybe I will, but did you ever see Pullman in Torchwood: Miracle Day? I won't describe the background of his character here because it's a subject that doesn't need to be on this board, but he's pretty vile and disgusting, but comes off as highly compelling.

Forgot about that one. Thankfully. Until now.

He'd said in an interview something along the lines of that he was drawn to test his acting skills playing the vilest character imaginable. I suppose he can tick that off his bucket list.