Knights & Knaves Alehouse

I've decided that strict canon is over-rated for just about anything. If it's a good story with good enough sfx, then I'll be a happy moviegoer.

TRP wrote:I've decided that strict canon is over-rated for just about anything. If it's a good story with good enough sfx, then I'll be a happy moviegoer.

Yep. The fanboys are never entirely happy, ever, about anything. So just make the best movie you can without pissing too many people off.

Mike B.

I'm being cautiously optimistic, so far the trailers look pretty good, the fact that the original cast is making an appearance really does more to make me want to see it than anything else.

I will say this now... and mark the date... if Han Solo survives something... anything... one of Chewie's farts... anything... but climbing into a fucking refrigerator... I will slaughter a random audience member.

Han will climb into a refrigerator while dodging a blast from the Nu-Dethstarr and will jump a shark. With lens flares all around. And Jar-Jar will be in it dancing with the reanimated CGI corpse of Joseph Campbell. And Ewoks will braid lots of hair. And dance.

...or Han will crashland the Millennium Falcon in a golf course.

The Millennium Falcon will fly so fast, it will reduce the number of parsecs below even 12! This will create a wrinkle in the timeline wherein Anakin finishes off Palpatine, just before Palpatine can finish off Mace. Anakin and Padme will raise Luke and Leia on Alderan. Without any Death Stars, the Trade Federation overwhelms the Republic. The love child cum Startrooper of Mace and Leia exhibits late-developing Force control, and he is whisked to the capital for training under Senator Yoda.

Meanwhile, enraged at the weakness and lack of technical skills of the Republic, Anakin throws himself into a volcano. He is, however, saved from death by being levitated out of the lava by Obi Wan. Luke's hand is horribly burned when assisting in retrieving his father from the molten rock. Anakin's new cybernetic implants drive him partially insane, and he goes off to study dark necromancy. He seeks to resurrect a strong leader from the past. He seeks a leader that can defeat the Trade Federation.

Despondent over the calamities befalling her father, Leia takes up with a roguish smuggler and his sidekick, Guido.

End Episode 7

TRP wrote:Meanwhile, enraged at his own lack of acting ability, Anakin throws himself into a volcano.

There. Corrected it for you.

Badmike wrote:BTW, having had to involuntarily watch the trilogy some couple dozen times in the last couple of years I am much more accepting of RotJ. It's still light years better than any film in the prequel trilogy.

Ditto. It's certainly my 12 y.o. daughter's favorite. She first saw it when she was 10. The lightness of the ewok portion balances the very dark Emperor/Luke scenes. It is not the quality of the first two movies, but is nowhere near as bad as any of the prequel movies. And it still might have the best movie space battle ever.

rogatny wrote:

Badmike wrote:BTW, having had to involuntarily watch the trilogy some couple dozen times in the last couple of years I am much more accepting of RotJ. It's still light years better than any film in the prequel trilogy.

Ditto. It's certainly my 12 y.o. daughter's favorite. She first saw it when she was 10. The lightness of the ewok portion balances the very dark Emperor/Luke scenes. It is not the quality of the first two movies, but is nowhere near as bad as any of the prequel movies. And it still might have the best movie space battle ever.

Watching RotJ in the theatre as five-year old, I fucking loved it. My dad said I was standing up in my seat, blasting away at the screen with my own guns. As I watched it again and again over the years, it became my least favorite of the originals, but I don't think it sucks balls. I can appreciate that adult me was not the target audience.

Badmike wrote:My granddaughter is 8 and a major Star Wars junkie (watched the original trilogy over 50 times, watches the Star Wars rebels cartoon, Clone Wars, etc). Never seen the prequels. She's stoked so her excitement is rubbing off on me. I guess I'll be bringing her there when it opens.

BTW, having had to involuntarily watch the trilogy some couple dozen times in the last couple of years I am much more accepting of RotJ. It's still light years better than any film in the prequel trilogy. I realize now I was just too old and jaded and angsty at the time (I was 15 when the original Star Wars came out, so in my 20s by the time RotJ was released) to like the last movie. It's for kids and it's probably my granddaughters favorite (it's the one she asks to see the most when she comes over).

Mike B.

Good for her.

More PROOF there is great hope for America.

I'm completely stoked for SW VII, and after watching the latest trailer, this movie now holds the same anticipation factor that Avengers: Age of Ultron has kept me in for the last 6 months.

My nerdrock experience is nearly complete...

rogatny wrote:

Badmike wrote:BTW, having had to involuntarily watch the trilogy some couple dozen times in the last couple of years I am much more accepting of RotJ. It's still light years better than any film in the prequel trilogy.

Ditto. It's certainly my 12 y.o. daughter's favorite. She first saw it when she was 10. The lightness of the ewok portion balances the very dark Emperor/Luke scenes. It is not the quality of the first two movies, but is nowhere near as bad as any of the prequel movies. And it still might have the best movie space battle ever.

Weirdest part I'm not at all a SW fanatic or even huge fan, so I'm not sure where she got her love for the series. She got engrossed in the flicks totally on her own after I showed them to the grandkids a couple years ago. She's more into SW than either of her brothers, which is cool. More than once she's watched all three films (back to back to back) in ONE NIGHT. I think RoTJ is her favorite because of the large screen time of Princess Leia (her favorite character), the Ewoks, and the barge battle over the sarlacc pit (her favorite scene in any of the movies). And she laughs everytime the pit keeper in Jabba's place cries after his pet rancor is killed.

Mike B.

One of the problems Jedi has, particularly to us old farts, is that its CGI insertions are amongst the most jarring in the new versions. Especially in Jabba's palace. It went from weird and menacing to (quite literally) cartoonish.

rogatny wrote:One of the problems Jedi has, particularly to us old farts, is that its CGI insertions are amongst the most jarring in the new versions. Especially in Jabba's palace. It went from weird and menacing to (quite literally) cartoonish.

That said, I very much like the enhanced version of ESB (at least the one I own-- perhaps there are other, more ridiculously "deproved" versions). The added shots of the Wampa, and the CGI BG plates of Cloud City are positive "deprovements," for me at least, over the original.

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"Deprovements" - see here: http://thissortofthing.com/index/2012/7 ... -wars.html


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View the video "at your own risk," I mainly intended to like the article.

Comic-Con Reel

Encouraging.