I know this is covered in the DMG someplace related to some monsters that have spell abilities due to religious, demonological or magical study. For instance a troll can be a shaman and cast spells. I also assume that humans as monsters and NPCs can be shamans. It true, are shamans worked up any place in more detail? Are there different "types" of shaman discussed in a Dragon article for instance? Do you think of Shamans as a broad "class" (as an archetype with a collection of powers and assumed behaviors, the way a cleric or magic user is a class)?
I've never been able to really settle on what a shaman is, say compared to a witch for instance. Dragon has witches, but what about all the other sorts of shaman there could be out there (witch doctors, demon worshipper monsters etc.).
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Re: The Shaman
Shamans as described in the DMG are just inferior clerics (with low level limits and very limited spell lists), so there's no reason any race capable of being a real cleric would want to be one. The same with the DMG's witch doctor vs. magic-users.
I do think a shaman could be a viable class, with spells and abilities distinct from those of the standard cleric and druid -- focused on talking to, warding off, and binding spirits, and at higher levels traveling in the spirit (i.e. ethereal) plane -- but that's not what's presented in the DMG. The DMG shaman is just an inferior "hedge cleric," nothing more.
EDIT: some pertinent prior discussion on a potential shaman class
I do think a shaman could be a viable class, with spells and abilities distinct from those of the standard cleric and druid -- focused on talking to, warding off, and binding spirits, and at higher levels traveling in the spirit (i.e. ethereal) plane -- but that's not what's presented in the DMG. The DMG shaman is just an inferior "hedge cleric," nothing more.
EDIT: some pertinent prior discussion on a potential shaman class
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Re: The Shaman
There's no reference to such in the DMG. By the book, the only races listed as having shamans are humanoid and related creatures, though cave men (who are a type of human) can have witch doctors.AxeMental wrote:I also assume that humans as monsters and NPCs can be shamans.
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Seems like just a sort of shorthand template for giving humanoids spell casters without mixing them in with the standard classes, and thus opening them up. I usually think of them as somewhere between magicians and clerics, which I think works well.
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Re: The Shaman
I love throwing shamen and witch-doctors at players. Nothing like a dispel magic thrown into the middle of a high level party by a piddly little kobold to liven things up!
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I've always wussed out and scribbled out "druid" and wrote in "shaman".
Re: The Shaman
Check out the Humanoid Spellcasters tables in CDD4 for DMG/OSRIC base standards - despite being generally played down, nearly all races capable of worship/study have spellcasters. KotB for one will be much deadlier with their inclusion.
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Re: The Shaman
there is a Shaman class in "Golden Khan of Ethengar" book.
