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Excluding pricelists. This was an interesting bit of research (and may be incomplete)...

1. Monster Manual
2. Players Handbook
3. The Dragon
4. Dungeons & Dragons, pp. 80, 92, 217
5. Boot Hill, pp. 58, 112-4
6. Gamma World, pp. 58, 112-4
7. Metamorphosis Alpha, pp. 58, 113
8. Dungeon Floorplans, p. 11
9. Greyhawk, Supplement I, p. 217
10. D3 Vault of the Drow, pp. 174, 228-9
11. The World of Greyhawk, pp. 47, 89, 156, 158
12. Swords & Spells, p. 66
13. Tractics, p. 58

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Fun trivia. As an addendum, at least a couple non-TSR products are also mentioned: White Dwarf magazine, Grenadier's AD&D miniatures, and a general (not product-specific) mention of Judges Guild's products. Are there any others?
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U&WA and GH get specific call outs in the Traps and Tricks appendix.
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grodog wrote:U&WA and GH get specific call outs in the Traps and Tricks appendix.
Already noted as p. 217.
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Falconer wrote:The Dungeon Floorplans mentioned may or may not be this product.
What is this? Looks nifty. :D
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RPG.net article on Dungeon Floor Plans. There are some for sale on eBay and Noble Knight, though they are the later editions without the D&D logo. Geekdo page for Dungeon Floor Plans (later edition). Let us know if you find any more info.
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They're basically gridded tiles for moving minis around on, although in general they were set up to be cut up, and then taped together or somesuch. A number of companies published them BITD: GW, Heritage, KABAL, Standard Games, and others I'm sure that I'm forgetting. GW's box scenarios were Caverns of the Dead, Nightmare in Blackmarsh, and others (5 total IIRC??).
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I actually had a later edition of the GW Dungeon Floor Plans set BITD and used them briefly in my late-80s WFRP games -- I used them to set up the dungeon-y locations in Shadows Over Bogenhafen before deciding they were more trouble than they were worth. As I recall there were several gridded (1" square) cardstock sheets illustrated with various surfaces (flagstones, dirt, water, etc.) that you were supposed to cut up to represent rooms and passages, plus a couple sheets of common features -- doors, chests, fireplaces, altars, etc.
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grodog wrote:They're basically gridded tiles for moving minis around on, although in general they were set up to be cut up, and then taped together or somesuch. A number of companies published them BITD: GW, Heritage, KABAL, Standard Games, and others I'm sure that I'm forgetting. GW's box scenarios were Caverns of the Dead, Nightmare in Blackmarsh, and others (5 total IIRC??).
Question is: are these products compatible with each other? Can I use Dungeon Floor Plans with other Dungeon Floor Plans for bigger dungeons? DFP with Caverns of the Dead et al.?
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T. Foster wrote:I actually had a later edition of the GW Dungeon Floor Plans set BITD and used them briefly in my late-80s WFRP games -- I used them to set up the dungeon-y locations in Shadows Over Bogenhafen before deciding they were more trouble than they were worth. As I recall there were several gridded (1" square) cardstock sheets illustrated with various surfaces (flagstones, dirt, water, etc.) that you were supposed to cut up to represent rooms and passages, plus a couple sheets of common features -- doors, chests, fireplaces, altars, etc.
Sounds like the Dungeon Tiles of WotC. How do they compare?
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Odhanan wrote:Sounds like the Dungeon Tiles of WotC. How do they compare?
No idea; never seen those. :|
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T. Foster wrote: No idea; never seen those. :|
It's alright, man. Wasn't going for a "gotcha" or anything. :D
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The specific Dragon articles mentioned (that I found) are:

Forms of Government by G. Gygax, #25, pg 88
A reference to the Starship Warden/D&D crossover, without actual citation to the volume, pg. 113
"Demonology Made Easy" by Gregory Rihn, #20, pg. 195

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rogatny wrote:The specific Dragon articles mentioned (that I found) are:
A reference to the Starship Warden/D&D crossover, without actual citation to the volume, pg. 113
FYI, that's "Faceless Men and Clockwork Monsters" in TD#17. Similarly, EX1, EX2, and WG6 are alluded to on page 112 (though not named specifically, since they hadn't been published yet).
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