Can someone explain the distinction between Hard Rock and Heavy Metal?
I noticed someone put some Zeppelin into their list. I would categorize them as the former. AC/DC too. Def Leppard, Deep Purple, etc.
The Top 100 Metal LPs of All Time
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It's generational, I think.ken-do-nim wrote:Can someone explain the distinction between Hard Rock and Heavy Metal?
Scorpions, Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Randy-era Ozzy were metal back in the day, but even then, Anthrax fans disputed that claim. Today, guys who cut their teeth on modern death metal can't discern between Crazy Train and Justin Bieber, probably.
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To me, it's like porn, in that " I know it when I see it" kinda way.
Re: The Top 100 Metal LPs of All Time
What we used to call heavy metal was a more diverse sound. By the very late '70s, the criteria for what would be considered metal began narrowing, and then the '80s continued that trend with vigor.
I used to lament the narrowing of the term to denote one particular sound, but I've come to appreciate that the term "hard rock" sets apart a more varied, interesting rock genre from what now is called metal.
I used to lament the narrowing of the term to denote one particular sound, but I've come to appreciate that the term "hard rock" sets apart a more varied, interesting rock genre from what now is called metal.
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I call it all "rock", sometimes with the descriptor "hard" or "light" or whatever.
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Re: The Top 100 Metal LPs of All Time
Someone claims Ozzy and Judas Priest aren't metal?
All I know is that as a kid, Machine Head, Paranoid, and IV defined heavy metal. Later, Back in Black got added to the list. Then Puppets, Reign in Blood, and Appetite.
Maybe the new stuff is a different genre of music than the older stuff. But if it is, then that new stuff isn't heavy metal. Because Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC/DC, etc. are most definitely heavy metal.
Hard rock is like the Stones, Steppenwolf, the Doors, Bob Segar...
All I know is that as a kid, Machine Head, Paranoid, and IV defined heavy metal. Later, Back in Black got added to the list. Then Puppets, Reign in Blood, and Appetite.
Maybe the new stuff is a different genre of music than the older stuff. But if it is, then that new stuff isn't heavy metal. Because Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC/DC, etc. are most definitely heavy metal.
Hard rock is like the Stones, Steppenwolf, the Doors, Bob Segar...
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I don't know if OCTOBER RUST, by Type O Negative, would be metal, but I love that one all the same.
It's there in my Top 100 for all time, but only during the month of October...
It's there in my Top 100 for all time, but only during the month of October...
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It may not be Zepplin or Slayer, but I would consider that metal, goth influences obvioulsly.OCTOBER RUST...
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“Let no one wake a man brusquely for it is a matter difficult of cure if the soul find not its way back to him”, the Upanishads of ancient India ( 58 Our Oriental Heritage, Durant).
"Life is intrinsically, well, boring and dangerous at the same time. At any given moment the floor may open up. Of course, it almost never does; that's what makes it so boring" – Edward Gorey.
"The bright day is done and we are for the dark" - Shakespeare
"No lamp burns till morning" - Persian proverb.
“The living close the eyes of the dead, but it is the dead that open the eyes of the living”— Old Slavic saying.
'The best place to hide a light is in the sun' – old Arab proverb.
'To thee, thou wedding-guest!
He prayeth well who loveth well
Both man and bird and beast.
He prayeth best who loveth best,
All things both great and small:
For the dear God, who loveth us,
He made and loveth all' - Samuel Taylor Coleridge (VII Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner).
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Yeah, I know. Serious, "LOL THOSE GUYS!" situation.rogatny wrote:Someone claims Ozzy and Judas Priest aren't metal?
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Not claiming it's universal, but it's out there.
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Re: The Top 100 Metal LPs of All Time
Listening to Lovedrive, right now. Forgot what a great album this is.
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Love Lovedrive, but Animal Magnetism will always be my go-to Scorps album.
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Haven't even finished my first listen, but I'm inclined to add this to the list.
Stormbringer, by Black Pyramid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz0jsiH9MnI
Stormbringer, by Black Pyramid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz0jsiH9MnI
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Great band. A lot like The Sword but not in a bad way.prespos wrote:Haven't even finished my first listen, but I'm inclined to add this to the list.
Stormbringer, by Black Pyramid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz0jsiH9MnI
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Pretty good. Mind, I like The Sword plenty too.
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