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Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:38 pm
by thedungeondelver
Are magic-user spells retained while the magic-user sleeps? Or must he re-memorize spells once he wakes up?
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:43 pm
by Matthew
I would say yes, otherwise at higher levels the time to memorise a full allotment of spells becomes prohibitive.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:44 pm
by rredmond
Matthew wrote:I would say yes, otherwise at higher levels the time to memorise a full allotment of spells becomes prohibitive.
This is how I always understood it as well.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:45 pm
by T. Foster
I've always ruled that a mage can sleep without losing memory of his spells, but if he's knocked below zero hp and revived he loses and must re-memorize everything. Without having the books at hand I have no idea whether that's actually spelled out officially anywhere or if it's my own house rule.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:49 pm
by thedungeondelver
I'm going to go with sleep = spells still retained (including magical sleep).
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:05 pm
by ScottyG
T. Foster wrote:I've always ruled that a mage can sleep without losing memory of his spells, but if he's knocked below zero hp and revived he loses and must re-memorize everything. Without having the books at hand I have no idea whether that's actually spelled out officially anywhere or if it's my own house rule.
That's also how I play it to, and I don't think I made it up, but I also don't have books handy to verify.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:10 pm
by Matthew
Last time I double checked with the books on this subject, there was no mention of a magician losing his spells from being reduced to 0 or less hit points. It is a really common ruling, though, so it must have its basis somewhere prominent.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:22 pm
by genghisdon
Retains them
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:34 am
by Benoist
Same as the others. He retains them.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:35 am
by Juju EyeBall
You could have some real problems if you were a somnambulent MU who talked in your sleep.

Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:46 am
by TRP
Spells are locked in memory until used, purposefully forgotten or magically wiped.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:47 am
by Juju EyeBall
TRP wrote:Spells are locked in memory until magically wiped.

Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:53 am
by AxeMental
DungeonDork wrote:TRP wrote:Spells are locked in memory until magically wiped.

What he said.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 am
by rredmond
DungeonDork wrote:You could have some real problems if you were a somnambulent MU who talked in your sleep.

Oooo, this could make the Insanity rules a wee bit more fun I'm guessing. Or if you wanted to bring in a fatigue mechanic. Never thought about it, but an evil DM could play with this. Er, I mean a "rules conscious" DM.
Re: Magic-user spell retention
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:06 pm
by thedungeondelver
TRP wrote:Spells are locked in memory until used, purposefully forgotten or magically wiped.
I'd say the near-death experience (or death itself) is enough to wipe them out though. IE brought to 0, -1, -2 in a single blow, or bleeding out to -9 - or being brought to -3 or lower in a single blow, etc. etc.