Re: Was the fighter in 1E underpowered compared to the MU
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:08 pm
Assuming EGG felt that, I disagree with him, and agree with you.AxeMental wrote:In the thread concerning Weapons Specialization, there seems to be an idea that Gygax thought the fighter needed to be given a boost up compared to the MU. The evidence for this assertion is presented throughout that thread (and I have no reason to doubt it). But do you agree with EGG (assuming he did feel this way)? Personally, I've always thought just the opposite. What happens when an MU (even a wizard) falls down a shoot and ends up on another floor without his fighters....generally he's fucked. He gets off his party trick or two or three and then he recedes to the background throwing daggers (along with the pore monk, a topic for another discussion).
Agreed, but our group's playstyle is combat heavy, thus all the players expect their characters to contribute meaningfully to combat (This can include scout work, ect)AxeMental wrote:The idea that one class is stronger then another also seems to be not that applicable to 1E. Its based on the "specialist concept". A powerful group hits that first locked stone door and they better have their thief (who suddenly becomes the most powerful). I don't see how comparing the MU to the fighter is any more useful then comparing the fighter to any other class. Certainly thieves have it the toughest at high level.
I don't think the game's premise is completely shot, as the premise will vary from group to group & campaign to campaign within the same group. The fighter needs no beefing up at all in 1e.AxeMental wrote:Plus, isn't making the fighter more powerful kind of destroying the premise of the game. MUs should be more powerful because they are far more rare (one gets the impression learning to be a fighter is relatively quick, while learning to be a MU takes a good chunk of your life as an apprentice). Anyhow, curious to see if you think the fighter needs beefing up relative to the MU (as Gygax seemed to think).