Knights & Knaves Alehouse

Excluding pricelists. This was an interesting bit of research (and may be incomplete)...

1. Monster Manual
2. Players Handbook
3. The Dragon
4. Dungeons & Dragons, pp. 80, 92, 217
5. Boot Hill, pp. 58, 112-4
6. Gamma World, pp. 58, 112-4
7. Metamorphosis Alpha, pp. 58, 113
8. Dungeon Floorplans, p. 11
9. Greyhawk, Supplement I, p. 217
10. D3 Vault of the Drow, pp. 174, 228-9
11. The World of Greyhawk, pp. 47, 89, 156, 158
12. Swords & Spells, p. 66
13. Tractics, p. 58

The Dungeon Floorplans mentioned may or may not be this product.

Fun trivia. As an addendum, at least a couple non-TSR products are also mentioned: White Dwarf magazine, Grenadier's AD&D miniatures, and a general (not product-specific) mention of Judges Guild's products. Are there any others?

U&WA and GH get specific call outs in the Traps and Tricks appendix.

grodog wrote:U&WA and GH get specific call outs in the Traps and Tricks appendix.

Already noted as p. 217.

Falconer wrote:The Dungeon Floorplans mentioned may or may not be this product.

What is this? Looks nifty.

RPG.net article on Dungeon Floor Plans. There are some for sale on eBay and Noble Knight, though they are the later editions without the D&D logo. Geekdo page for Dungeon Floor Plans (later edition). Let us know if you find any more info.

They're basically gridded tiles for moving minis around on, although in general they were set up to be cut up, and then taped together or somesuch. A number of companies published them BITD: GW, Heritage, KABAL, Standard Games, and others I'm sure that I'm forgetting. GW's box scenarios were Caverns of the Dead, Nightmare in Blackmarsh, and others (5 total IIRC??).

I actually had a later edition of the GW Dungeon Floor Plans set BITD and used them briefly in my late-80s WFRP games -- I used them to set up the dungeon-y locations in Shadows Over Bogenhafen before deciding they were more trouble than they were worth. As I recall there were several gridded (1" square) cardstock sheets illustrated with various surfaces (flagstones, dirt, water, etc.) that you were supposed to cut up to represent rooms and passages, plus a couple sheets of common features -- doors, chests, fireplaces, altars, etc.

grodog wrote:They're basically gridded tiles for moving minis around on, although in general they were set up to be cut up, and then taped together or somesuch. A number of companies published them BITD: GW, Heritage, KABAL, Standard Games, and others I'm sure that I'm forgetting. GW's box scenarios were Caverns of the Dead, Nightmare in Blackmarsh, and others (5 total IIRC??).

Question is: are these products compatible with each other? Can I use Dungeon Floor Plans with other Dungeon Floor Plans for bigger dungeons? DFP with Caverns of the Dead et al.?

T. Foster wrote:I actually had a later edition of the GW Dungeon Floor Plans set BITD and used them briefly in my late-80s WFRP games -- I used them to set up the dungeon-y locations in Shadows Over Bogenhafen before deciding they were more trouble than they were worth. As I recall there were several gridded (1" square) cardstock sheets illustrated with various surfaces (flagstones, dirt, water, etc.) that you were supposed to cut up to represent rooms and passages, plus a couple sheets of common features -- doors, chests, fireplaces, altars, etc.

Sounds like the Dungeon Tiles of WotC. How do they compare?
(sorry for the hijack btw )

Odhanan wrote:Sounds like the Dungeon Tiles of WotC. How do they compare?

No idea; never seen those.

T. Foster wrote: No idea; never seen those.

It's alright, man. Wasn't going for a "gotcha" or anything.

The specific Dragon articles mentioned (that I found) are:

Forms of Government by G. Gygax, #25, pg 88
A reference to the Starship Warden/D&D crossover, without actual citation to the volume, pg. 113
"Demonology Made Easy" by Gregory Rihn, #20, pg. 195

I'd love to know if there are any I missed.

rogatny wrote:The specific Dragon articles mentioned (that I found) are:
A reference to the Starship Warden/D&D crossover, without actual citation to the volume, pg. 113

FYI, that's "Faceless Men and Clockwork Monsters" in TD#17. Similarly, EX1, EX2, and WG6 are alluded to on page 112 (though not named specifically, since they hadn't been published yet).