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I was wondering how you are dealing with the surprise rule as it relates to assassination. Do you require simple surprise (1-2 in 6) or do you require an attack from behind as a thief? Also, do you limit it to held weapons (rather then a thrown dagger, arrow etc.)?
PS. I'm not referring to poison, only the assassination ability.

My impression is that it follows the same requirements as a thief's backstab, as it mentions an assassin can choose instead to perform a backstab. I'd also allow a disguised assassin to assassinate at point blank range if they are highly trusted and being careful not to be seen until the last moment (grandma with a kitchen knife held behind her back sorta thing).

Deja vu?

http://www.knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/ ... f=8&t=1576
http://www.knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/ ... ?f=8&t=576
http://www.knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/ ... f=8&t=2800

Thanks for digging that up Lord Cias (I knew we'd talked it over before, but hadn't realized we came to some conclusions). Damn, why the fuck don't we have cool discussions like this any more? Interesting point brought up in the top one by SKA (an assassin opting for backstab against undead (and anything else that has a back that can't be assassinated) a good catch).

AxeMental wrote:I was wondering how you are dealing with the surprise rule as it relates to assassination. Do you require simple surprise (1-2 in 6) or do you require an attack from behind as a thief? Also, do you limit it to held weapons (rather then a thrown dagger, arrow etc.)?
PS. I'm not referring to poison, only the assassination ability.

My impression is that it follows the same requirements as a thief's backstab, as it mentions an assassin can choose instead to perform a backstab. I'd also allow a disguised assassin to assassinate at point blank range if they are highly trusted and being careful not to be seen until the last moment (grandma with a kitchen knife held behind her back sorta thing).

simple surprise, not limited to melee