Knights & Knaves Alehouse

Falconer wrote:FYI, the latest edition of S&W:WB (and possibly also the other versions of S&W?) offer multiple save categories, and IIRC some other “optional rules” to bring it more in line with true OD&D.

Yes, the new printings of Core and Complete also have the multiple save categories.

Use the multiple save categories and ignore the option of using ascending AC and you're good to go.

On this whole issue, out of the TSR old guard, Erol Otus and Dennis Sustare have both played in my games -- far from mentioning differences, Dennis uses S&W for his convention games, and Erol volunteered to design for free the t-shirt for next convention's game (and that he'd be back at the S&W table next year). S&W is not a museum quality replica of the original books, but I have it on excellent authority that it's a museum quality replica of the original game, if that distinction makes sense.

My copy of OD&D is printed from PDFs, folded, stapled, and trimmed. Total cost for the 3 LBBs plus GREYHAWK was about $8. And I don't have to treat the books gingerly. I can toss them around like D&Ders undoubtedly did back in the 1970s.

Falconer wrote:That’s why I linked to that 6th printing box for $130 BIN. That’s a pretty good deal, these days. It got snagged right away. Did one of you snag it?

Guilty.

It did seem like a pretty good deal; not too much higher than if I took the time and effort to hunt around and routinely get outbid, but eventually sneak them out cheaper.

Thanks!

Strong, Bill! Good for you.

I'll have to wait to get my own money as my wife claims my paycheck every two weeks.
Then I will buy me a copy. Mwahahahaha!

capitalbill wrote:

Falconer wrote:That’s why I linked to that 6th printing box for $130 BIN. That’s a pretty good deal, these days. It got snagged right away. Did one of you snag it?

Guilty.

It did seem like a pretty good deal; not too much higher than if I took the time and effort to hunt around and routinely get outbid, but eventually sneak them out cheaper.

Thanks!

Grats.

Clangador wrote:I am somewhat hesitant to download the original OD&D material since I don't own it myself. I mean I have a ton of files and such, but I also own the hardcopies to everything I have.

I do own the originals, and I provide copies for the regular players at my table. Sooo... If you've got a few spare month, you could come join my game, and I'll run them off for you!

Oh, and in response to the original post:

S&W White Box. (But only if you refuse to come play in my game.)

austinjimm wrote:Oh, and in response to the original post:

S&W White Box. (But only if you refuse to come play in my game.)

Last time I was in Texas was 1985 while in basic training for the Air Force. It was way way too hot for me. On,the other hand, one of my friends now lives in Texas with his new wife.

Someone reformatted (for clarity) the 3 LLB's with franzetta black ad white pencil sketches. It's beautiful.

Bargle wrote:Someone reformatted (for clarity) the 3 LLB's with franzetta black ad white pencil sketches. It's beautiful.

I can imagine! Damn!

Holmes and personal extrapolation I suppose is the best clone. Then again perhaps AD&D is the most faithful clone in the sense that it can be reduced almost perfectly to OD&D whereas the authors of the other clones don't have much of Gygax dna when it comes to the essays and mood.

Montaigne wrote:Holmes and personal extrapolation I suppose is the best clone. Then again perhaps AD&D is the most faithful clone in the sense that it can be reduced almost perfectly to OD&D whereas the authors of the other clones don't have much of Gygax dna when it comes to the essays and mood.

That is a double-edged sword. Some people don't like Gygax AD&D. They knock OSRIC because it follows in his footsteps.

Clangador wrote:Some people don't like Gygax AD&D. They knock OSRIC because it follows in his footsteps.

Kinda missing the whole point of "clone," I'd say.

Needless to say, when it comes to Gygax AD&D, you won’t find any haters here!