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Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:55 am
by thedungeondelver
Flambeaux wrote:thedungeondelver wrote:I really, really like Paladins. When they're properly played, that is. I'll warn (ONCE) a player running a Paladin that the whole "Oh I'm going to go check out these carvings or guard further up the corridor while the party questions that goblin." thing doesn't wash. A player running a Paladin who willingly leaves a creature to be tortured or wantonly murdered by the rest of the party suddenly finds himself in possession of a some-combination-of-neutral fighter. Likewise the allegedly LG cleric (or anyone else LG for that matter).
This approach to paladins and clerics I have never understood. Leaving a human to be tortured? Sure.
But a humanoid? No. They are an evil form of vermin that must be eliminated from the face of the earth by any means necessary.
I said "a creature". I specifically mention goblins. Of course it's all encompassing. Torture is an evil act, regardless of who's doing it to whom in the game.
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:06 pm
by ScottyG
I agree; torture is ‘evil’. A humane execution, on the other hand, gets seven thumbs up from the Seven Heavens!
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:08 pm
by geneweigel
The torture thing came up very awkwardly with this player I had years ago and acted so bizarre as if torturing something with a LG character was so important. I think he was behind the video called GAMEMASTER GAMEMASTER which he brought for me to view which explained a lot as I almost Fahrenheit 451ed my D&D stuff after viewing that film...
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:23 pm
by Flambeaux
I am not in the "torture is intrinsically evil" camp. It has its proper place.
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:24 pm
by thedungeondelver
geneweigel wrote:The torture thing came up very awkwardly with this player I had years ago and acted so bizarre as if torturing something with a LG character was so important. I think he was behind the video called GAMEMASTER GAMEMASTER which he brought for me to view which explained a lot as I almost Fahrenheit 451ed my D&D stuff after viewing that film...
what
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:28 pm
by geneweigel
thedungeondelver wrote:geneweigel wrote:The torture thing came up very awkwardly with this player I had years ago and acted so bizarre as if torturing something with a LG character was so important. I think he was behind the video called GAMEMASTER GAMEMASTER which he brought for me to view which explained a lot as I almost Fahrenheit 451ed my D&D stuff after viewing that film...
what
Some guy made such a big deal about torture for a humanoid that I just let him do it and he acted like he was a pig in shit. Later he gave me this video that he made (that was for sale and had a website a while back [9 years ago?]) about a D&D game called GAMEMASTER GAMEMASTER and it was so horrifically nerdy that it actually made me physically repulsed. Please don't watch it. It may make you quit D&D for all time.
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:50 am
by Philotomy Jurament
I think that sound was the din from dozens of keyboards clicking as GAMEMASTER GAMEMASTER was typed into Google…
Re: Gnomeaphobia!
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:11 am
by geneweigel
I just realized how "Sigourney Weaver-ish" I sound in that last post...
Gene tracks them down to their lair with a "flame thrower/grenade launcher/smartgun/C4 pie thrower" to recover his stolen miniatures as a clanking railroad version of "Mars, God of War" throbs in the background...
OMIGOD!!! ITS THE NERD QUEEN!!! GET AWAY FROM THAT BALROG, YOU BITCH!!!
Sorry...