Knights & Knaves Alehouse

"Tiefling"

Having thought that Planescape would be some reprieve for D&D and a couple of boxed sets and modules later all I got out of it was:

A) A repulsion for flopsy-faced monster illustrations,

B) New players coming off the street talking "the cant" ("Oi, berk!") really really had nothing better to do and

C) The "second edition" embodiment known as "tieflings". If you thought an alu-demon was a "diet succubi" then you ain't seen nothing yet!



That said the "templates" of 3e gave an even freakier abomination with players wanting characters who have "angel ancestry"....

SHUDDER

BlackBat242 wrote:

Wheggi wrote: And Gene, that's why I renamed all the dark elves in the GDQ 'drau'. Spell it like I say it, says I. The lower level ones I call 'draulien'. All of them yell in exagerrated German accents, listen to crappy Euro disco music, and wear tight black clothing.

- Wheggi

Any of them named "Hans" or "Jeter"?

Häi. Sere's a Dschörmen hier! Änt hi never wärs tight bleck closink!

geneweigel wrote: That said the "templates" of 3e gave an even freakier abomination with players wanting characters who have "angel ancestry"...

I dunno. I don't feel that way, particularly when:

Men & Magic, p. 8 wrote:Other Character Types: There is no reason that players cannot be allowed to play as virtually anything, provided they begin relatively weak and work up to the top, i.e., a player wishing to be a Dragon would have to begin as let us say, a "young" one and progress upwards in the usual manner, steps being predetermined by the campaign referee.

Not a stab at you, really. I you can't stand it that's totally fine! That kind of stuff sure can get out of hand real quick.

Heck, I don't care about "balrog players" I was just talking about that recently.

What I meant was regarding aesthetics, innapropriateness and just plain warped POV when you see these people go into action playing their "angel ancestry" characters. Depicting them with Schwarzenegger bodies and baby faces...UGH...I must be missing something to not know where this originates from. If I have to go through catering to that again I swear I'm just going to lose it!

Ah...I was guilty of once wanting "exalted" characters in my game(s). Fortunately I snapped out of it and laid such foolishness back at the feet of White Wolf and walked back onto the correct path.

Half- things bug me, too. Half-dragon. Half-Aasimar. Half-grey ooze/half kobold.

Half Elves get a pass because hey, Elrond. Half orcs get one too because hey, they'll get with anything.

3, 3.5, and 4

koga305 wrote:2, 3, 3.5, and 4

Fix'd it for ya.

- Wheggi

NOW PLAYING ON RADIO WHGI: "My New World" by Transatlantic

Wheggi wrote:

koga305 wrote:2, 3, 3.5, and 4

Fix'd it for ya.

- Wheggi

NOW PLAYING ON RADIO WHGI: "My New World" by Transatlantic

Uh... I actually think 2 is OK (although 1e and basic are much better).

Uh... I actually think 2 is OK (although 1e and basic are much better).

Roll for initiative.

Just kiddin'!

Wheggi wrote:

koga305 wrote:2, 3, 3.5, and 4

Fix'd it for ya.

At least 2E people tend to enjoy AD&D, unlike the majority of 3E people.
(In this context, "*E people" refers to people who began playing *E before other versions or derivatives of the game)

I dislike the term THAC0. It's a pointless mechanic since you can simply track attack roll bonuses instead, subtracting the modified attack roll from 20 and comparing to opponent AC. (Of course, in AD&D you have to add that +5 for an attack roll of 20.)

Even though I use it all the time for clarity, I also dislike the term OD&D. It's the original, so why does it need a special label? It's DUNGEONS & DRAGONS, simple as that.

Another that annoys me (and I'm reaching for blasphemy here) is campaign. It seems that everyone is always out to "start a new campaign" or "develop their campaign" when what really mean is that they are wanting to get some guys together for a simple D&D game or pen down a bunch of make-believe jibber-jabber. I find it odd to make a huge fuss about a long-term game when your actual goal is getting together anything at all for the short-term.

Storyteller, bleh!

There are probably many others.

Tolkienesque
The Big Model/GNS Theory/Threefold Model (quit theorizing, and just play the damn game!)
+1 Sword (or any other generic magic item that is defined by a bonus)
Roll-playing
"New Wave" role-playing games
Godmoding
Dungeon Crawl/Bash
LARP
Hack and Slash
The "D&D Experience"
Convention Gaming

I get this from my 3.5E players: "One dice, two dies."

No! It's one die, two dice!!

LOL! In any argument between grammar and people, grammar loses.

dungeonpunk
makes me want to kill kill kill!

I vote for "the awesome," especially when it's spelled "teh awesome." "Shiny" as a noun also annoys me.