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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:28 am
by Mythmere
Aha - I was assuming that everything between that big river delta and the jungled hills was desert. If that area's normal terrain, then it makes perfect sense.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:35 am
by Flambeaux
Altitude can make a difference, too. If the desert is a mesa or plateau and both the river delta and the jungle are lower in altitude, that might help account for the clouds dropping their water in such a fashion as to produce the geography proposed.
Just my two bits.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:45 pm
by BlackBat242
Stonegiant wrote:the prevailing winds come from the southwest. In the "bowl" as I refer to it the terrain is delta/swamp, grasslands, than jungle/forest
The winds from the southwest pass across the delta/swamp, then the grasslands, then across the jungle... the ground gently rising the whole way, thus forcing the air mass higher.
Adiabatic cooling* reduces the water-carrying capacity of the air, and it releases most of its moisture as rain (possibly snow in the highest elevations**), which creates the jungle. Runoff from the jungle waters the grasslands (along with the early rains), then spreads out forming the delta/swamp.
As the air passes across the peaks and begins to decend, it heats. This increases its water-carrying capacity, which allows it to retain all remaining moisture, creating a "rain shadow desert".
The only problem I see is that the areas north-west and south-east of the mountain bowl would likely be grasslands/scrub, not desert, although desert could form inland a ways... it would just not be as close to the coast as that in the "rain shadow".
*the drop in temperature of rising, unsaturated air is about 10 degrees C/1000 meters (5 ½ deg F per 1000 feet) altitude.
If water vapor in the air is condensing, the adiabatic rate is less. The air is only cooling off at a rate of about 5 degrees C/1000 meters (2.7 deg per 1000 feet).
http://daphne.palomar.edu/jthorngren/ad ... cesses.htm
** temperate rain forests, which experience occasional snow, do exist... see the Olympic penninsula in Washington state)
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:48 pm
by BlackBat242
Algolei wrote:
(How does the desert region along the Pacific coast of South America work again? I forget, it's been so long since high school geography class. . . .

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The prevailing winds in that part of South America are east>west, thus creating the above-mentioned "rain shadow desert" as the water is dropped on the east side of the Andes range. This is still the case where the desert is a "cold desert", as there is no moisture left in the air after it crosses the Andes.
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:34 pm
by Stonegiant
Alright here is the latest incarnation of the map. Made some changes based on discussions here and also for the sake of the campaign I am designing.

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:30 pm
by Piper
Nice work, Sean.
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:48 pm
by Algolei
I like it.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:21 am
by Random
Looks like it would be great photocopied as a player handout, with all kinds of fun to be had exploring beyond the mountains.
A most excellent map.
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:37 am
by Wheggi
That's really, really nice Sean! I may have to hit you up for a map . . .
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Wheggi