Knights & Knaves Alehouse

Oh my goodness. http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=32631

Yay, d20!

<Simpsons>Kissing girls... That is so gay!</Simpsons>

It sounds like the bullies Bull Rushed, provoking an Attack of Opportunity, but I can't figure out if the girls used Aid Ally to provide the boys a +2 to hit, or if they flanked and launched their own attacks.

In any event, the kids are just lucky the bullies didn't have optimal feat arrays for a Brute build or things could have been much worse.

I find it strange that everyone is shocked by these bullies. Considering the fact that Old School gamers here are at major odds with d20 gamers in many forum threads. How many of you call them 3tards? They may just be forum posts, but the level of hatred displayed in some of them leads me to believe that these people would be coming to blows if they ever met face to face. Makes you want to rethink it all and wonder to yourself why you make such a big deal out of the differences in the systems eh?

tomjscott wrote:They may just be forum posts, but the level of hatred displayed in some of them leads me to believe that these people would be coming to blows if they ever met face to face.

Why do you think I stay away from GEN-CON?

Man, I SO wished there were SCA arse-kicking girls when I was in high and junior high school. I could have left alone the slim pickin' supply of metal head chicks, (all six of them) and might have actually had a date before senior year.

I've gotta take the particular scenario with a grain of salt (pending sounder evidence), but bullies are perennial.

As a kid, I heard from my pal Common Sense that it was a load of fertilizer that such creeps "lacked self esteem." Eventually, "scientific studies" catch up and say they've got more than they've earned.

I reckon most of that is learned in roundabout ways. Please, try not to be too busy earnesty to listen to (and talk with) a kid. If you're lucky enough to live so long, the kid shall out-muscle you.

tomjscott wrote:I find it strange that everyone is shocked by these bullies. Considering the fact that Old School gamers here are at major odds with d20 gamers in many forum threads. How many of you call them 3tards?

We call them that because of this kind of behaviour

All that 'old fogey games are for losers' only works until they get a 1st edition hardback upside the head. Now that's some classic American craftsmanship, none of this d20 chapbook shite. The corners on the DMG are almost sharp enough to gouge out an eye or puncture a lung; and you may never need to use Dieties and Demigods in play, but whipping it like a frisbee at some 8th grade bullies head deserves a critical hit table roll when it connects. Old School AD&D...now back the f*** off, or I'm getting out my PHB!

Ha! One of the posters there, roguebfl, is responding to someone who said he'she couldn't sell his/her 3.0 books because "they are now probably worth nothing:"

you could probibly get as much cash for them as you can you 2nd ed or even 1st ed books.

My Unfriendly Local Game Store won't buy 3.0 books, but they'll buy anything from 1st or 2nd edition. There's still a fairly healthy trade going on with them. They were selling the 2E hardcovers for $8 when 3E started, but by the time 3.5 hit the shelves, the prices had gone up to $15. And last time I checked, they were charging $20 for a 2E PH.

Kellri wrote:All that 'old fogey games are for losers' only works until they get a 1st edition hardback upside the head. Now that's some classic American craftsmanship, none of this d20 chapbook shite. The corners on the DMG are almost sharp enough to gouge out an eye or puncture a lung; and you may never need to use Dieties and Demigods in play, but whipping it like a frisbee at some 8th grade bullies head deserves a critical hit table roll when it connects. Old School AD&D...now back the f*** off, or I'm getting out my PHB!

Don't forget the old Gamescience dice. Many a gamer I am sure has lost a finger from those sharp edges.

I yearn for the good old days when we just had choreographed dance battles.

When the d20 bullies at work start pickin' on me, I just stuff my designer, rainbow-colored polyhedrals into my Gucci handbag and leave.

I put the likelihood that this story actually happened at about, oh, 5%.

Evreaux wrote:I put the likelihood that this story actually happened at about, oh, 5%.

"Okay ... give me a roll!"