4e seems to be here

northrundicandus · Post by **northrundicandus** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:31 pm

Blizzard Software should thank them.

"Why play this D&D Shittle on the computer when you can play World of Warcraft instead?"

Post by **Philotomy Jurament** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:33 pm

T. Foster wrote:Who exactly is that YouTube video supposed to appeal to?

Francophiles with laptops, I guess.

Daniel Proctor · Post by **Daniel Proctor** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:38 pm

It's funny how they try to show an increase in complexity from 1e to 2e to 3e.

I've always felt that 2e was a MAJOR simplification of 1e...at least in many respects, especially with the gutting of the DMG. But, it paints a nice picture for their sales pitch.

Wheggi · Post by **Wheggi** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:48 pm

T. Foster wrote:Who exactly is that YouTube video supposed to appeal to?

Me. I see the future of Dungeons and Dragons, and there can be no going back . . . only 4ward!

Next year Foster, lets do 4dventure. C'mon, bring your laptop over to the house, and I'll have the router set up, then we can PBMB . . . in the same room! 4wesome! It will be just like D&D, but without all that irritating face to face interaction (or is it more like playing online without the isolation? I'm not sure yet, but its gonna be good! That's what they're telling me!)

I've got dibs on the Teefling fighter w/spells! W00T!

- Wheggi

rogatny · Post by **rogatny** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:37 pm

"Dungeons & Dragons would not be the game it is without evolution and refinement."

So I finally know who to blame for the $#!+ that's been spewing forth for the last couple decades... evolution and refinement. I'll punch 'em in the nose next time I see them.

thedungeondelver · Post by **thedungeondelver** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:18 pm

rogatny wrote:"Dungeons & Dragons would not be the game it is without evolution and refinement."

Yes.

It would be good.

Algolei · Post by **Algolei** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:55 pm

rogatny wrote:"Dungeons & Dragons would not be the game it is without evolution and refinement."

It's a pity they're not using a Star Trek definition of evolution, 'cause then there'd at least be an intelligent designer behind it.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:47 am

Daniel Proctor wrote:It's funny how they try to show an increase in complexity from 1e to 2e to 3e.

I've always felt that 2e was a MAJOR simplification of 1e...at least in many respects, especially with the gutting of the DMG. But, it paints a nice picture for their sales pitch.

Not once you add on all the extra supplements and stuff, though the writing style and editing was arguably simpler.

Ancalagon · Post by **Ancalagon** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:42 am

rogatny wrote:"Dungeons & Dragons would not be the game it is without evolution and refinement."

<snip>

So does this mean that Darwin is now one of the Ds in D&D?

Algolei · Post by **Algolei** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:37 am

Am I wrong, or are they suggesting "4dventure" should be pronounced "Adventure," with the 4 representing a capital A?

'Cause, gee, nerds need to feel l33t, right?

Algolei · Post by **Algolei** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:24 am

Addendum

I think the writers of Family Guy are still playing 2E FR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD21XdDjFyc&NR=1

Stonegiant · Post by **Stonegiant** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:06 am

It don't look good

Link 1

Link 2

Thoth Amon · Post by **Thoth Amon** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:17 am

rogatny wrote:"Dungeons & Dragons would not be the game it is without evolution and refinement."

I miss afros and pink erasers.

Thoth Amon · Post by **Thoth Amon** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:26 am

So now Fighters get magic and low-level characters can whack trolls like a whack-a-mole game? Huh... Hopefully it won't be as bad as the video makes them out to be. My hopes are not high though.

On a positive note, I definately like the book covers a lot better than the revised covers for 1e, either cover of 2e or 3e! I will look at the covers in real life when I see one to see if my opinion holds true, once they come out.

TRP · Post by **TRP** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:05 am

Playtesters for the new devolution will be tapped from RPGA and D&D Insider subscribers.

Drink the Kool Aid first, then you can playtest the system. After all, why would a game designer want an opinion from an outside of the loop perspective?