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TheRedPriest wrote:The inability to own property is, of itself, not evil.
Well, not being able to own property because of financial reasons is not necessarily evil, but being prohibited from acquiring and owning property is evil.

Another evil of the Soviet Union (not Communism per se) was the prohibition on emigration.
China isn't making it either w/o adapting.
China is more authoritarian now than Communist. In some ways (lower taxes, frex.) it is more capitalist than the U.S.
Ermanaric wrote:Much like the monarchy to which Locke criticized*
The English monarchy under which Locke lived might have done this, but in general property rights are better protected under a monarchy than under any other system of government, including democracy. In fact I would say our current system in the U.S. regards property as something exclusively created by the government. For instance, there is no State in the Union in which one can homestead any more (Alaska was the last but abolished it in 1995). So one must acquire property either from the previous owner or from the State.
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Returning to the original topic for a moment, since I am in Katowice right now, I walked downtown to take a look at Plac Wolnosc and the monument. Whatever the merits of erecting a statue of the late Mr. Reagan on the spot, it has to be said the Soviet monument is phenomenally uninspired, even for a work of 50s socialist realism. I took a few pictures, but am regrettably unable to upload them for lack of an USB slot on the computer I am presently using.

I also spotted a TV crew on the square filming an interview in progress. Interesting stuff; I'll have to ask my hosts their opinions on the matter.

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dcs wrote:
TheRedPriest wrote:The inability to own property is, of itself, not evil.
Well, not being able to own property because of financial reasons is not necessarily evil, but being prohibited from acquiring and owning property is evil.
My statement assumed a group of citizens voluntarily relinquishing the ability.
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dcs wrote:This is who the deserves a statue in Poland -- Fr. Jerzy Popiełuszko:
By the way, while I have not run across any statue, Fr. Popiełuszko does have a street named after in Katowice. So does John Paul II. (actually, a square), but that is hardly a surprise.

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Melan wrote: So does John Paul II. (actually, a square), but that is hardly a surprise.
I'm a little surprised noone has tried to rename the country Popeland in his honor.
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