{RJK} Bottle City & The Living Room adventures

PapersAndPaychecks · Post by **PapersAndPaychecks** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:30 pm

GenghisWayne wrote:No mention of the historical commentary and design notes. I think this is a critical piece of this product, and omitting it from the standard edition would completely suck.

Bingo.

grodog · Post by **grodog** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:24 pm

Sounds like Rob's likely to put the historical info into both books:

RJK on PPP boards wrote: Well hells bells!

That is why they created the saying that "you cant please everyone."

The special commission LE is just that: Better production/packaging values, reproduced map and original color MS pages to a tee, special signing for each commissioner, and limited to how many ordered in a 3 week span up to a maximum of 100. If there are 10 ordered only, 20, 30, etc. that by itself should make the limited edition valuable to the collectors.

The SE wil be numbered and not signed, will have two maps (two halves, as it costs way too much to produce a single map at the $20.00 level, go figure) will not have the original reproduced MS pages, and will not be packaged the same way as the LE.

JFYI, I considered putting the historical commentary in both from the onset, and I now wonder if I had at first chosen to do so if there would even be an issue with it at this point.

As Allan Grohe commented on K&K, this particular product launch is an experiment, and I do hope that it does not turn into a tug-o'-war. The idea that BC is a historical piece is not new. That it will be issued in two different formats is new. I hope that folks will see that as a good point and not as a contentious one, actually, because when all is said and done we are a community, whether we be strictly gamers, strictly collectors, or a mixture of both.

RJK

=)

T. Foster · Post by **T. Foster** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Good call from Rob. The historical commentary (which, as someone mentioned above, is likely only to page a page or two of text anyway) is a big part of this product's appeal, for the standard edition just as much as the limited edition. Including it in both versions will make everybody happy and I can't imagine will do anything to decrease demand for the limited edition (because I doubt anyone was actually going to pay $130 extra for this info, they were just going to be bitter/resentful over not getting it).

Mythmere · Post by **Mythmere** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:52 pm

Yup, a good decision.

TRP · Post by **TRP** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:59 pm

Probably ultra-dense here, but I don't have on my read-between-the-lines glasses. Where in RJKs post does it say he's going to include the historical notes?

T. Foster · Post by **T. Foster** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:07 pm

TheRedPriest wrote:Probably ultra-dense here, but I don't have on my read-between-the-lines glasses. Where in RJKs post does it say he's going to include the historical notes?

It doesn't. I'm just being hopeful.

Mythmere · Post by **Mythmere** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:07 pm

TheRedPriest wrote:Probably ultra-dense here, but I don't have on my read-between-the-lines glasses. Where in RJKs post does it say he's going to include the historical notes?

Actually, he doesn't say anything either way, true.

GenghisWayne · Post by **GenghisWayne** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:21 pm

grodog wrote:Sounds like Rob's likely to put the historical info into both books:

Well, I'll pile my hopes in with Foster.

Thanks for the info, Allan.

GW-

TRP · Post by **TRP** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:09 pm

Well, since those notes seem really important to ya'll, I'll burn a voodoo candle that ya get your late Chriskwanakkah present.

dcs · Post by **dcs** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:35 pm

The Original Living Room is now available, and the Special Edition of Bottle City is available for pre-order.

TRP · Post by **TRP** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:18 pm

What was the final decision on the Limited/Standard edition controversy?

Stormcrow · Post by **Stormcrow** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:32 pm

TheRedPriest wrote:What was the final decision on the Limited/Standard edition controversy?

I believe Bottle City has the latest contents listed.

The Standard Edition has the typed-up original manuscript! That's what I really want to see, and I'm glad it's been added to the Standard Edition. I'll be buying one for certain now.

dcs · Post by **dcs** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:47 pm

TheRedPriest wrote:What was the final decision on the Limited/Standard edition controversy?

There hasn't been one yet, so the product page hasn't been updated.

Stormcrow, the Standard Edition was always to have included the typed transcript of Rob's notes. The difference between the LE and the SE here is that the Limited Edition also has reproductions of Rob's notes (for those of you who want to read his chicken scratch

).

I think Rob is leaning towards including the historical material in the SE, but he has not made a final decision yet. I'll be sure to keep you fellows updated.

Stormcrow · Post by **Stormcrow** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:10 pm

dcs wrote:Stormcrow, the Standard Edition was always to have included the typed transcript of Rob's notes. The difference between the LE and the SE here is that the Limited Edition also has reproductions of Rob's notes (for those of you who want to read his chicken scratch ).

Ah. That wasn't clear to me from the announcements.

dcs · Post by **dcs** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:18 am

'Tis official -- the standard edition will include both historical commentary and the designer notes.