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PapersAndPaychecks wrote:Why does the US need so much more?

One would think that a Keynsian would support such government intervention in the economy. Just think of it as economic stimulus for the defense sector of the market.

Have no fear, most over here have "known" each other for a few years on the net.

BPOM did a good job of pointing out that there is no concensus in the scientific world that human activity is linked to global warming. Many, (and almost all on the socialist/left scale) have fallen for the propaganda.

Why is the left/socialsist so behind global warming? Becasue it means they can raise taxes on gasoline and garner more control over the individual. Through these taxes they achieve one of their main goals: the redistribution of wealth.

P&P---neither India nor China have signed up for Kyoto. England itself has missed all of the targeted emission standards put in place by this treaty. (Why? Because the economy of England would have been too damaged.)


For those who may have been wondering....no, I really do not have a mini-sub, but I do have a group of dolphins that hang around my dock on the inter-coastal.

I take everything here dead seriously and I hate every god-damned one of you hippies! All of you! If I ever meet any of you, I'll choke you all to death with my own god-damned hands!

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dcs wrote:

PapersAndPaychecks wrote:Why does the US need so much more?

One would think that a Keynsian would support such government intervention in the economy. Just think of it as economic stimulus for the defense sector of the market.

I work for one of those defense sector companies. We are owned by a really big English defense firm.
The good thing about the government spenidng levels on defense is there is always a huge supply of money out there and a very wide range of specific customers to develop for and serve , many companies would fade out of existence if they had to depend on the private market to provide funds for research and development. Big corporations are wimps and multi-million dollar programs that woudl make then hundreds of millions in the future are cut off over night because profits may be reduced by 2 or 3 % over the next quarter or two (profits here not earnings).
Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

JDJarvis wrote: Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

I welcome our new Robotic Overlords.

northrundicandus wrote:

JDJarvis wrote: Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

I welcome our new Robotic Overlords.

Skynet says, "All your a$$ are belong to us."

Get your stinking claws off me, you damn dirty robots!

JDJarvis wrote:Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

That all depends on whether one believes that taking others' (i.e., taxpayers') money and throwing it at defense contractors is good for the economy. It may "create jobs" (or keep them) but at what expense? If I could save more money I might be able to invest it in other markets.

thedungeondelver wrote:I take everything here dead seriously and I hate every god-damned one of you hippies! All of you! If I ever meet any of you, I'll choke you all to death with my own god-damned hands!

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dcs wrote:

JDJarvis wrote:Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

That all depends on whether one believes that taking others' (i.e., taxpayers') money and throwing it at defense contractors is good for the economy. It may "create jobs" (or keep them) but at what expense? If I could save more money I might be able to invest it in other markets.

Yup I do. Don't like what folks are doing with your tax money vote for people with views you do like. Defense spending feeds me, feeds my children , does the same for the hundreds of other people I work with. It is not "thrown" at contractors such notions are based on dellusional paranoid propaganda. The robots and add-on armor the firm I work for makes saves lives, one wrecked robot is also a hell of a lot cheaper then a dead or maimed serviceman. I've read the letters and met some of the servicemen I'm sure they and their families don't question the expense.
The company also gets to exsist and fund intitial development of other products that improve artificial hearts, monitor premature babies feeding, reduce garbage and improve transportation saftey. Funds don't just flow from taxpayers pockets to fat cat pockets.

TheRedPriest wrote:

northrundicandus wrote:

JDJarvis wrote: Combat robots and add-on armoring are good for the economy of the U.S. & the U.K.

I welcome our new Robotic Overlords.

Skynet says, "All your a$$ are belong to us."

Don't worry skynet doesn't loom in the immediate future no government is as short sighted or capable as those in ficition.

JDJarvis wrote:no government is as short sighted or capable as those in ficition.

I worked as a gov't contractor for years and now actually work for the beast. I'll bite on the idea that gov'ts are not that capable, but I find that many gov't decisions are indeed short sighted.

TheRedPriest wrote:

JDJarvis wrote:no government is as short sighted or capable as those in ficition.

I worked as a gov't contractor for years and now actually work for the beast. I'll bite on the idea that gov'ts are not that capable, but I find that many gov't decisions are indeed short sighted.

well there are the occasional meetings and a lot more people involved then movies even hint at in multidiscipline weaposn programs. skynet and all the robots in last movie would require 30 or more years of development and a hell of a lot of companies. Somewhere someone would have said...."what if skynet tries to kill all of us?" or "what if one of the programmer is a crank and tries to kill us all using skynet?" or "hey this stuff looks a little dangerous"

JDJarvis wrote:

TheRedPriest wrote:

JDJarvis wrote:no government is as short sighted or capable as those in ficition.

I worked as a gov't contractor for years and now actually work for the beast. I'll bite on the idea that gov'ts are not that capable, but I find that many gov't decisions are indeed short sighted.

well there are the occasional meetings and a lot more people involved then movies even hint at in multidiscipline weaposn programs. skynet and all the robots in last movie would require 30 or more years of development and a hell of a lot of companies. Somewhere someone would have said...."what if skynet tries to kill all of us?" or "what if one of the programmer is a crank and tries to kill us all using skynet?" or "hey this stuff looks a little dangerous"

Like the old movie Colossus: The Forbin Project. Someone would have pulled the plug on that project loooong before the first skynet was created. Colossus is the first movie I remember where the machines take over.

The first time a computer says to me, "Sorry, Hal, but I can't do that", is the last time that computer says anything.

Not me, I can't wait for the day Dr. Theopolous and Twiggy are hanging out in Discos.