Knights & Knaves Alehouse

Perhaps decided to focus on his obligations.

https://grrm.livejournal.com/564326.html

What. Ever.

It’ll have been 7 years between books in July.

Too bad he didn't do this seven years ago when it still mattered. When I think back to how far behind the show the books are, and that even if he managed to get another book out that it would still necessarily be dealing with stuff like Stannis and Ramsey Bolton and Margaery Tyrell and the situation in Meereen, it seems completely irrelevant.

I'm sure one of the attractions of the show to him was that the story would have an ending whether or not he cared to do his own.

T. Foster wrote:Too bad he didn't do this seven years ago when it still mattered. When I think back to how far behind the show the books are, and that even if he managed to get another book out that it would still necessarily be dealing with stuff like Stannis and Ramsey Bolton and Margaery Tyrell and the situation in Meereen, it seems completely irrelevant.

I don’t think so. I’m mid-way through re-reading the books (on and off), and, it’s hard in this frame of mind to take the TV show’s plotlines very seriously.

I like the show, but my wife and I had the same bitch that ended up turning into a running joke when we watch it.

It seems like sometimes it takes weeks and weeks for someone to travel to a location, but then someone else will travel an even further distance and it takes like 20 minutes. So when someone on the show says something like, "we need to head to King's Landing", my wife or I would say something like, "big deal, it'll only take you 20 minutes".

Seemed like the last season was a little too much. I didn't think teleportation magic existed in Westeros.

If I ever read the series, it won't be until after the 7th and last book is out in paperback. Then, we'll see.

Chances are my 13-year-old daughter will be able to legally buy a bottle of wine by that time.

I won't consider returning to this series until Martin finishes it entirely (if he does).

Not to drag the thread too off topic but man I just couldn't do that show after a while. "I'm going to make people feel bad, all the time, every time, constantly, the show will be a joyless plod of horrific images, because realism".

I consume fantasy to get the fuck away from that kind of thing.

Not much into escapism, but yeah - the dreary mudfarmer aesthetic and misery porn felt fresh and interesting when Drizzt and Tasslehoff still roamed the land, but today, it has nothing left to give. Deadly dull. Like someone who spends his life bitching and moaning about his misfortunes. After a while, you can't help but wonder how many of his issues are self-inflicted.

thedungeondelver wrote:Not to drag the thread too off topic but man I just couldn't do that show after a while. "I'm going to make people feel bad, all the time, every time, constantly, the show will be a joyless plod of horrific images, because realism".

I consume fantasy to get the fuck away from that kind of thing.

Agreed. I've only read the first two books and have not seen the show. Not sure if I will ever try to read all the books. It's an ugly story, with ugly people on an ugly world. Some people like that kind of fantasy and that's great for them. It's not for me. Sadly, a lot of TV shows these days make their living showing ugly unpleasant stuff. There is enough of that in real life. I don't want it in my entertainment

Has anyone made an edit of the show for those of us who only want a hyper-condensed version? IOW, the tl;dr version for the ADHD crowd?

ThirstyStirge wrote:Has anyone made an edit of the show for those of us who only want a hyper-condensed version? IOW, the tl;dr version for the ADHD crowd?

Ned’s dead.
R + L = J.
Bewbs.
Dragons.

That about sums it up.

ThirstyStirge wrote:Has anyone made an edit of the show for those of us who only want a hyper-condensed version? IOW, the tl;dr version for the ADHD crowd?

It's a fantasy version of The War of Roses. Children get murdered, there's incest, lots of rape (hoooo boy the rape), then frozen zombies come pouring through a giant wall that keeps them penned up in the north...oh, yeah, the whole "Winter is Coming" thing. Mr. "I Keep My Fantasy Worlds Realistic" Martin (hey George if you're so damn realistic where's the 30% mortality rate from Cholera? anyway...) has the world of Westeros that apparently has no seasons that obey any proper climatological sense; winter happens when it's plot-convenient to happen.

Martin establishes pretty quickly that these hard-working, noble-but-just types are the ones to root for and then describes in what can only be painted as fetishistic detail how each and every one of them are murdered, or raped, or raped then murdered, or dragged through heaps of literal and metaphorical shit for, apparently, Martin's sense of "verisimilitude".

Martin's built an empire on that shit, though, so what do I know? Welp, back to Tolkien.