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Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:04 pm
by MageInBlack
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Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:06 pm
by RandomEncounter
Blackadder23 wrote:
EOTB wrote:
Blackadder23 wrote:This comment from "Collaborator" Mike Myler is pretty amusing to me: "Frank's really busy doing other stuff." Stuff that's more important than raising a quarter million dollars, I guess.
You can't put a price on Facebook.
Another parallel with Gareth M. Skarka and Far West. It's uncanny!
Lol that far west is hilarious. "The day after I Kickstarted this, I went out on a blind date with a friend of a friend. Two years ago, we got married. We're expecting our first child next year.
Maybe my grandchildren will be able to play this."

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:29 pm
by Blackadder23
RandomEncounter wrote:Lol that far west is hilarious. "The day after I Kickstarted this, I went out on a blind date with a friend of a friend. Two years ago, we got married. We're expecting our first child next year.
Maybe my grandchildren will be able to play this."
Oh, I agree. I wasn't a backer but I've been following the train wreck since 2014. I can't believe they still have nothing to show for their pledges but about fifty missed delivery dates - and that's just for the pdf! :?

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:55 pm
by gizmomathboy
Kellri wrote:
I have to think he probably mined that particular mountain dry with the original funding for Eldritch Enterprises. But maybe there is more of the original $250K he raised left to dump into this effort???
Yeah, because if anyone has a 100K or so laying around, what better way to invest it than funding a moronic D&D setting that's not even near to being written yet?

I seriously need to consider this KS business. With 250k I could basically fund a pretty decent village clinic in Cambodia with an attached day school and staff it with some pretty talented and driven people for a couple years at least (while looking for more substantial backers). After a decade, I could start funneling money to university scholarships for deserving village kids - who survived because of the clinic. Needless to say, we would be the first village in Cambodia to have a thriving D&D club. But, hey, that would be real social justice as opposed to some flaky setting allegory about orcs and tree-huggers.
Yeah, and you could use indiegogo so you could still get the money even if you didn't hit your full go (I think you can set up that way there).

There's gotta be a great name you can you for such a project but my post-surgery brain can't think of one.

(trying real hard not to crassly trawl Dead Milk Men lyrics for ideas).

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:22 pm
by blackprinceofmuncie
gizmomathboy wrote:Yeah, and you could use indiegogo so you could still get the money even if you didn't hit your full go (I think you can set up that way there).
An Indiegogo campaign to help fund the failing Kickstarter. :D

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:24 pm
by francisca
blackprinceofmuncie wrote:
gizmomathboy wrote:Yeah, and you could use indiegogo so you could still get the money even if you didn't hit your full go (I think you can set up that way there).
An Indiegogo campaign to help fund the failing Kickstarter. :D
Shades of Nystul.

Also, can we reign in the personal attacks? I mean there is plenty to criticize with the kickstarter, without dragging Lorraine Williams, Gary, and E.D. medication into the fray.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:24 pm
by Flambeaux
gizmomathboy wrote:(trying real hard not to crassly trawl Dead Milk Men lyrics for ideas).
Glad I'm not the only one.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:24 pm
by RFlowers
They are rebooting.
Greetings all.

We're rebooting the Empyrea Kickstarter.

In my first-ever KS I made several miscalculations, so we're fixing them. The Team have discussed options and we're all set. Here are the highlights:

Realistic (lower) goal, carefully analyzed for maximum quality and cost-efficiency (alernate printing sources, etc.)
Realistic delivery time (next Fall, not Summer)
Expanded Living Campaign online at all levels (not just Nobles)
Expanded PDF benefits and options for all

Sorry about that, but now we know how to do this right. Thanks again for your support.

So here are some details from the Team.

—Frank

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Hello everybody! It’s Mike!

In the rush of his lifelong campaign setting being fully realized and shared with the world, Frank’s zeal to make Empyrea have a massive print run with a huge impact got the better of him and bowled me right over. Rightly so—I’ve gotten to sit in on his weekly game, I’ve read the internal documents for it, and it’s a really fantastic place ripe for adventure especially with the huge scope involved. In addition to that a lot of amazing people from the industry came out of the woods to get on board with the project as soon as they got wind of it and did so right up to the night before launch. In the mix of Empyrea being finalized and a widening roster of contributors, the full breadth of Frank’s vision was shadowed by the needs of firming up work agreements and other business concerns.

This last week we’ve worked hard to refine the focus on things and make sure everyone clearly understands the expansive, involved, and frankly ground-breaking gaming phenomenon that Frank has laid out here. It is still a complicated affair—a box set fantasy setting with multiple books and compatibility with 10 RPGs, a medieval campaign world that’s approachable but still filled with fantastic underpinnings he’s spent 40 years refining, all done by an epic team from the industry’s history, an expansive online campaign simultaneously played by citizens and nobles from across the globe—but we’re hoping that it’s clearly presented now and that we can exceed our revised, smaller print run goal to realize Frank’s larger dream.

That dream isn’t happening without you.

Please take a look at the preview page for the Empyrea Kickstarter relaunch and let us know what you think: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ex ... n=63bf5fb9. As Frank notes above we’ve made some fundamental changes but we want your feedback on how else we can make this project a success! We’re extremely grateful for your faith in the Kickstarter thus far and can’t wait to get things started off right to make Empyrea what it should be.

We’re going to implement changes based on what you’ve got to say and relaunch on Monday October 16th at 0:01 EST—we’ll see you there. :)

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:42 pm
by bobjester
A re-launch is the best possible thing Frank can do now. Hopefully they'll show us something we haven't seen before, like outstanding art, a compelling reason to play in Emprrhoea aside from coddling newborn orc babies.

I was seriously afraid he was screen-capping this thread and working out how to PM each and every one of us to tell us our Postal Rates are going up, and how hard it'll be from now on to order anything online through Amazon or lulu.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:44 pm
by RFlowers
bobjester wrote:
I was seriously afraid he was screen-capping this thread and working out how to PM each and every one of us to tell us our Postal Rates are going up, and how hard it'll be from now on to order anything online through Amazon or lulu.
No reason that cannot still happen in the future.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:55 pm
by RandomEncounter
RFlowers wrote:
bobjester wrote:
I was seriously afraid he was screen-capping this thread and working out how to PM each and every one of us to tell us our Postal Rates are going up, and how hard it'll be from now on to order anything online through Amazon or lulu.
No reason that cannot still happen in the future.
Oh that's totally happening. You'll never use USPS or go to a con again. Just FYI!

I guarantee 99% of the feedback they used to make this decision to reboot is from K&KA. And 1% from that Jason guy on the comments ;P

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:01 pm
by bobjester
You're welcome, Frank. Because we care.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:06 pm
by RandomEncounter
I wonder how many of the people catch on to how retarded an online campaign where some people pay for estates and secret Noble messages is.

Although I'm now sorely tempted to make a fighter/thief/mu whose only goal in life is to usurp titles.

And for the record, if the chances for fulfilling the setting books is already low, this online campaign stuff is going to last about 3 weeks and die, at most.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:13 pm
by Juju EyeBall
Do-over? LMAO.

Re: Frank Mentzer's Empyrea Fantasy Setting on KS

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:19 pm
by bobjester
RandomEncounter wrote:I wonder how many of the people catch on to how retarded an online campaign where some people pay for estates and secret Noble messages is.

Although I'm now sorely tempted to make a fighter/thief/mu whose only goal in life is to usurp titles.

And for the record, if the chances for fulfilling the setting books is already low, this online campaign stuff is going to last about 3 weeks and die, at most.
I heard of this years ago, where online players paid real $$ for "virtual realty". wtf didn't I come up with this?

"Pay me $10,000 and I'll send you the deed to this mansion I built in SimCity."

"....ummm, no, you can't relocate it to GTA's Coast City. The deed/title is only good in the SimCity mod I added to online play, and you can't even relocate it to someone else's mod!"